Matrix soundtrack: English lyrics to German song?

[Nev]

This seems the right place to ask.

Track 12 from the first movie, titled "du hast" by the group Rammstein. What
are the English lyrics? They're repeated so it's not very long.

'Nein' is 'no' and 'du' is 'you'... but that's all I understand.

[Crudbreeder]

Post by Nev
This seems the right place to ask.

Actually, it doesn't.

Post by Nev
Track 12 from the first movie, titled "du hast" by the group Rammstein. What
are the English lyrics? They're repeated so it's not very long.
'Nein' is 'no' and 'du' is 'you'... but that's all I understand.

I'm convinced you will find it all here: www.google.com


--
np: Tall Boys - Ride the torpedo

[Nev]

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Nev
This seems the right place to ask.

Actually, it doesn't.
I'm convinced you will find it all here: www.google.com

Done... and there were the English lyrics:
http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/sehnsucht#du_hast

See, this *was* the right place to ask! Many thanks.

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Nev

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Nev
This seems the right place to ask.

Actually, it doesn't.
I'm convinced you will find it all here: www.google.com

http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/sehnsucht#du_hast
See, this *was* the right place to ask! Many thanks.

you also could have found this information without asking

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Nev
This seems the right place to ask.

Actually, it doesn't.
I'm convinced you will find it all here: www.google.com

http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/sehnsucht#du_hast
See, this *was* the right place to ask! Many thanks.

you also could have found this information without asking

...or going to the trouble of bothering to post the answer.

NO ONE HAS CARED ABOUT RAMMSTEIN SINCE 1997.


...except probably steve.
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[Nev]

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
you also could have found this information without asking

...or going to the trouble of bothering to post the answer.
NO ONE HAS CARED ABOUT RAMMSTEIN SINCE 1997.

Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in music
were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about such an
unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of me
to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
croakings and grossly out-of-tune noodlings suitable only for street urchins
and coachmen.

Heavens... I blush, I burn at the mere thought of such error.

Well, goodly duo, I do earnestly beg you to accept my most abject apologies
for unknowingly diverting --even if ever so briefly-- your precious
attentions from what doubtlessly are much more pressing issues at hand.

Without question your World Views of popular music and culture clearly leave
my unseemly, rat-like thoughts in the dust. I am truly daunted at your
stellarly vast storehouse of knowledge. Certainly you've spent countless
hours researching these nebulous subjects in the finest centers of
international learning. But, oh! the accolades for your hard labors must be
unimaginably stupendous! Surely a Nobel on the not-so-distant horizon may be
spied? The suspense must be almost unbearable. Yes, yes... do keep us all
informed!

Signing off, I am...

Groveling at your feet with eyes downcast, waiting most hopefully for
further snippets of your coolness



PS: thank you, Crudbreeder, for your quick and courteous response. I
sometimes forget Google is such an all-encompassing resource.

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Nev

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
you also could have found this information without asking

...or going to the trouble of bothering to post the answer.
NO ONE HAS CARED ABOUT RAMMSTEIN SINCE 1997.

Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in music
were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about such an
unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of me
to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
croakings and grossly out-of-tune noodlings suitable only for street urchins
and coachmen.
snip<

You'll have to forgive them, they tend to suck each other's cock while they
make sure everyone knows that all differing opinions are inferior to their
own.

I agree with you, though... but with kids like those two running around on
usenet, you can rest assured knowing that you'll probably be flamed for
attempting to engage in civil conversation about most bands.

[Keef]

Post by Nev
Well, goodly duo, I do earnestly beg you to accept my most abject apologies
for unknowingly diverting --even if ever so briefly-- your precious
attentions from what doubtlessly are much more pressing issues at hand.

Haha! Now THAT was funny!

[j***@hexdump.org]

Nev <***@whidbey.com> wrote:
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in music
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about such an
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of me
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept

The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in music
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about such an
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of me
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

haha, you win
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at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
-Joanna

[Sound Mirror]

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in music
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about such an
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of me
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

not really... let's take a look:

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't care) -
makes use of keyboards

Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards

it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of

me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't care) -
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

You're turning into "Girl," steve

[j***@hexdump.org]

Loki Ambrodious von Esling <[e-mail]> wrote:
: You're turning into "Girl," steve

Is he going to claim that Rammstein was on Hard Wired Monster Trux? :)

[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of

me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't care) -
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

You're turning into "Girl," steve

Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the denizens
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever and
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

Girl.

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the denizens
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever and
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

she's got a point there...

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the

denizens

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever

and

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

she's got a point there...

"me too" posts are soooo mid-80s

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the

denizens

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever

and

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

she's got a point there...

"me too" posts are soooo mid-80s

replying to trolls is soooo late-90s
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at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
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[Sound Mirror]

Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the

denizens

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever

and

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

she's got a point there...

"me too" posts are soooo mid-80s

replying to trolls is soooo late-90s

Claiming other people are trolls without identifying yourself as one again,
paul?

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche

of

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev
me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their

inept

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't

care) -

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Nev
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

You're turning into "Girl," steve

Not that I've noticed. And really, a better analogy would be asking about
Johnny Cash on alt.gothic. He's not Goth, but that would bother the denizens
of alt.gothic. In other words, Loki, you're still as big a twat as ever and
nobody gives a fuck what you think.

I ment it in the way you overanalyize one-sentence points sometimes.

Bah, i hardly ever post to RMI anymore, now that lowtax, bryan erickson,
and tom shear have moved on.

[j***@hexdump.org]

Sound Mirror <***@bbb.ccc> wrote:
: not really... let's take a look:

Let's not.

Fact is that Rammstein has no place being discussed on rmi, and I'm
not even one of those "industrial music died with industrial records"
types talking here, either.

You can claim that there are degrees of off-topicness, and you'd be
right - but the reality here is that cash would be offtopic on alt.synthpop
and rammstein is offtopic on rmi.

I don't know what the proper NG would be for Rammstein, but RMI ain't it.

[Locke]

Please let me quote ***@hexdump.org...
|Sound Mirror <***@bbb.ccc> wrote:
|: not really... let's take a look:
|
|Let's not.

Why not? Are you afraid of looking into it?

|Fact is that Rammstein has no place being discussed on rmi, and I'm
|not even one of those "industrial music died with industrial records"
|types talking here, either.

I can agree with this.

|You can claim that there are degrees of off-topicness, and you'd be
|right - but the reality here is that cash would be offtopic on alt.synthpop
|and rammstein is offtopic on rmi.
|
|I don't know what the proper NG would be for Rammstein, but RMI ain't it.

Well, Sound Mirror made another suggestion. He said that a band that
makes use of keyboards is on topic either in rec.music.industrial or in
alt.music.synthpop. If it ain't RMI it must be alt.music.synthpop then.
And they would need the traffic even more than RMI does.

CU,
Locke

NP: Flux Information Sciences "Summer"

[j***@hexdump.org]

Locke <***@mad.scientist.com> wrote:
: Please let me quote ***@hexdump.org...
: |Sound Mirror <***@bbb.ccc> wrote:
: |: not really... let's take a look:
: |Let's not.
: Why not? Are you afraid of looking into it?

Because it was an inane point that he made. Great, he caught me,
a random pairing of artist & NG might not be as badly OT as the
one the OP made. So what, the point remains the same.

: Well, Sound Mirror made another suggestion. He said that a band that
: makes use of keyboards is on topic either in rec.music.industrial or in
: alt.music.synthpop. If it ain't RMI it must be alt.music.synthpop then.
: And they would need the traffic even more than RMI does.

:)

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: |Let's not.
: Why not? Are you afraid of looking into it?
Because it was an inane point that he made. Great, he caught me,
a random pairing of artist & NG might not be as badly OT as the
one the OP made. So what, the point remains the same.
: Well, Sound Mirror made another suggestion. He said that a band that
: makes use of keyboards is on topic either in rec.music.industrial or in
: alt.music.synthpop. If it ain't RMI it must be alt.music.synthpop then.
: And they would need the traffic even more than RMI does.
:)

keyboards do not an industrial band make.

would you consider any of hte following to be industrial (or synthpop,
for that matter)?
blur
the rentals
spacehog
beck
electric hellfire club
parliament


the list could go on

the point here, is that steve is a moron. if you listen to him, you'd
also be led to believe that industrial music was started by kraftwerk
and front 242, and that throbbign gristle is irrelevant.

he's just a troll. plonk him and move on.
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at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
-Joanna

[Sound Mirror]

Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.
the point here, is that steve is a moron. if you listen to him, you'd
also be led to believe that industrial music was started by kraftwerk
and front 242, and that throbbign gristle is irrelevant.

oh, really? Paul, I just love how you put words in my mouth, when you
actually have no fucking clue.

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.
he's just a troll. plonk him and move on.

good god paul, way to be a child...

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Locke
|You can claim that there are degrees of off-topicness, and you'd be
|right - but the reality here is that cash would be offtopic on alt.synthpop
|and rammstein is offtopic on rmi.
|
|I don't know what the proper NG would be for Rammstein, but RMI ain't it.
Well, Sound Mirror made another suggestion. He said that a band that
makes use of keyboards is on topic either in rec.music.industrial or in
alt.music.synthpop. If it ain't RMI it must be alt.music.synthpop then.
And they would need the traffic even more than RMI does.

Wrong, i never stated that it was on topic. I simply said Rammstein uses
keyboards, industrial and synthpop artists also use keyboards. There is no
reason why Rammstein can't be discussed here, as you would find similarities
in the music of other bands that fall under the industrial umbrella. I
should explain (before someone else tries to point it out) that, just
because they use keyboards, it wouldn't be too out of place in a synthpop
group; it would be out of place (unless one considers Rammstein's cover of
DM's "Stripped", or possibly Kraftwerk's "Das Modell"). It's more fitting in
an industrial group.. not only for the industrial elements in the music, but
because there are a slew of industrial fans who listen to Rammstein as
well.. probably more so than synth pop.

[Francois Labreque]

Program ended abnormally on 18/11/2003 19:03, Due to a catastrophic

Post by j***@hexdump.org

Post by Locke
|You can claim that there are degrees of off-topicness, and you'd be
|right - but the reality here is that cash would be offtopic on

alt.synthpop

Post by Locke
|and rammstein is offtopic on rmi.
|
|I don't know what the proper NG would be for Rammstein, but RMI ain't it.
Well, Sound Mirror made another suggestion. He said that a band that
makes use of keyboards is on topic either in rec.music.industrial or in
alt.music.synthpop. If it ain't RMI it must be alt.music.synthpop then.
And they would need the traffic even more than RMI does.

Wrong, i never stated that it was on topic. I simply said Rammstein uses
keyboards, industrial and synthpop artists also use keyboards. There is no
reason why Rammstein can't be discussed here, as you would find similarities
in the music of other bands that fall under the industrial umbrella. I
should explain (before someone else tries to point it out) that, just
because they use keyboards, it wouldn't be too out of place in a synthpop
group; it would be out of place (unless one considers Rammstein's cover of
DM's "Stripped", or possibly Kraftwerk's "Das Modell"). It's more fitting in
an industrial group.. not only for the industrial elements in the music, but
because there are a slew of industrial fans who listen to Rammstein as
well.. probably more so than synth pop.

So, just because the members of Rammstein, Depeche Mode, WU-Tang klan, and the
Berlin Philarmonic Orchestra all use dental floss once in a while, doesn't means
that their music can be discussed in all of the newsgroups interchangeably.
There has to be more than the mere presence of a particular instrument in a
group's music to make it on topic here.

np: GYBE - F# A# oo

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Francois Labreque
There has to be more than the mere presence of a particular instrument in a
group's music to make it on topic here.

Exactly, and I covered that in my post.

[Todd Clayton]

Post by Francois Labreque
So, just because the members of Rammstein, Depeche Mode, WU-Tang klan,
and the Berlin Philarmonic Orchestra all use dental floss once in a
while, doesn't means that their music can be discussed in all of the
newsgroups interchangeably. There has to be more than the mere presence
of a particular instrument in a group's music to make it on topic here.

With the pitiful amount of traffic and discussion going on in this NG
these days, let 'em discuss any damn band they want.
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Post by Todd Clayton

Post by Francois Labreque
So, just because the members of Rammstein, Depeche Mode, WU-Tang klan,
and the Berlin Philarmonic Orchestra all use dental floss once in a
while, doesn't means that their music can be discussed in all of the
newsgroups interchangeably. There has to be more than the mere presence
of a particular instrument in a group's music to make it on topic here.

With the pitiful amount of traffic and discussion going on in this NG
these days, let 'em discuss any damn band they want.

I'm amazed that even though the people have changed, the arguments are
still the same.

Jamie,
checking rmi once a month at best.

PS -- there is an English version of "Du Hast" on _Sehnsucht_ in which the
lyrics are "You... you hate... you hate me..." Hence, the confusion on the
proper translation of "Du Hast", which is in fact "you have."

PPS -- "Hierate Mich" means "Marry Me."

--

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Check it out at http://www.eggplant-productions.com/jintsu

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:51:25 -0500, Francois Labreque

Post by Francois Labreque
So, just because the members of Rammstein, Depeche Mode, WU-Tang klan, and the
Berlin Philarmonic Orchestra all use dental floss once in a while, doesn't means
that their music can be discussed in all of the newsgroups interchangeably.
There has to be more than the mere presence of a particular instrument in a
group's music to make it on topic here.

I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen some of those guys from WU-Tang
klan's teeth? I mean, realy. I ain't so sure floss has _ever_ touched that.

np: opera!

--
"It's like that old saying: A conservative is a liberal who's been attacked
by aliens."
Simon - mhm27x5

[A.G. Pennypacker]

Rammstein - buttmetal
Industrial music - not buttmetal

lol fixed lol

[paleophile]

Post by Sound Mirror
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

Yes, it is a bad analogy, but not in spirit, only because it doesn't quite
capture what the point of what the person intented.

But still, Rammstein doesn't belong on rec.music.industrial, and anyone who
thinks so is musically uneducated.

But then again, what's the point? The largest threads, the biggest
contributors to disccusion, on this newsgroup seem to be started by people
asking dumb questions which offend the sensibilities of the veterans of this
group. I think certain people here *like* bitching about this kind of stuff
and don't even realize it.

Then again, I don't think the solution to slow discussion on this group is
to encourage people to start posting wildly unrelated topics whose
intellectual content is dubious. I think many people agree with me when I
say that I'd rather this group "die" then turn into a forum for that kind of
thing.


--
-paleophile (ask for e-mail)

"Nature doesn't do things by 'accident'. She accomplishes things by
trial and error; there's a difference."

Wesley Clark for President!
http://www.clark04.com

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by paleophile
contributors to disccusion, on this newsgroup seem to be started by people
asking dumb questions which offend the sensibilities of the veterans of this
group. I think certain people here *like* bitching about this kind of stuff
and don't even realize it.

Dood, modern day usenet is all about bitching now. Since there is no
more concept of "the September noob rush" and other classic instances,
there's pretty much nothing left but complaining.

ARPANET and the ilk that followed was founded by nerds and
self-righteous types. Pureists might think that the great discussion
medium was a good thing for bringing all types of people together, but
only the types with superiour wit or incredible low self esteem reigned
and the rest generally get flushed out.

I mean, come on, why are fatsex, pr0n, furries, deviant music, and
conspiracy theories the most brought up topics on any random
well-populated forum of interweb communication?

Now let us all praise almighty goatse, may he live one thousand years.

[Sound Mirror]

Post by paleophile
But still, Rammstein doesn't belong on rec.music.industrial, and anyone who
thinks so is musically uneducated.

I would definitely not say that. Then again, it all depends on what you
consider to be industrial and industrial-related or not. It also depends on
whether or not a stick gets lodged up one's ass when someone mentions such a
band on this newsgroup. Why be so conservative about it, ya know?

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by paleophile
But still, Rammstein doesn't belong on rec.music.industrial, and anyone

who

Post by paleophile
thinks so is musically uneducated.

I would definitely not say that. Then again, it all depends on what you
consider to be industrial and industrial-related or not. It also depends on
whether or not a stick gets lodged up one's ass when someone mentions such a
band on this newsgroup. Why be so conservative about it, ya know?

BECUASE RAMMSTEIN IS NOT INDUSTRIAL

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by paleophile
But still, Rammstein doesn't belong on rec.music.industrial, and anyone

who

Post by paleophile
thinks so is musically uneducated.

I would definitely not say that. Then again, it all depends on what you
consider to be industrial and industrial-related or not. It also depends on
whether or not a stick gets lodged up one's ass when someone mentions such a
band on this newsgroup. Why be so conservative about it, ya know?

BECUASE RAMMSTEIN IS NOT INDUSTRIAL

industrial related :-)

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Nev

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by paleophile
But still, Rammstein doesn't belong on rec.music.industrial, and anyone

who

Post by paleophile
thinks so is musically uneducated.

I would definitely not say that. Then again, it all depends on what you
consider to be industrial and industrial-related or not. It also depends

on

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Sound Mirror
whether or not a stick gets lodged up one's ass when someone mentions

such a

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Sound Mirror
band on this newsgroup. Why be so conservative about it, ya know?

BECUASE RAMMSTEIN IS NOT INDUSTRIAL

industrial related :-)

THEY AREN"T INDSUTRIAL BEUCASE THEY USE GUITARS. AND OH THEY SUCK. VNV
NATION IS THEO NLY HOPE FOR HUMANITY.`

[Todd Clayton]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
THEY AREN"T INDSUTRIAL BEUCASE THEY USE GUITARS. AND OH THEY SUCK. VNV
NATION IS THEO NLY HOPE FOR HUMANITY.`

That's it. I'm killing myself now.
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[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Todd Clayton

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
THEY AREN"T INDSUTRIAL BEUCASE THEY USE GUITARS. AND OH THEY SUCK. VNV
NATION IS THEO NLY HOPE FOR HUMANITY.`

That's it. I'm killing myself now.

but first,

PLAY SAVIOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Todd Clayton]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Todd Clayton
That's it. I'm killing myself now.

but first,
PLAY SAVIOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who gave this guy access to the quotesfile? :)
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[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Todd Clayton

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Todd Clayton
That's it. I'm killing myself now.

but first,
PLAY SAVIOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who gave this guy access to the quotesfile? :)

Probably during one of the 9000 visits to (read: bannings from)
#rmipeople from a few years back.

[Keef]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by Todd Clayton
That's it. I'm killing myself now.

but first,

This argument is so gay, it's wearing a tight top, has a gelled,
partly dyed mohican and a tube of anal lube in its back pocket!

[Crudbreeder]

Post by Sound Mirror
Rammstein - makes use of keyboards

Europe - heavy metal with keyboards
conclusion: Rammstein sounds just like Europe.

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror
Rammstein - makes use of keyboards

Europe - heavy metal with keyboards
conclusion: Rammstein sounds just like Europe.

well, if you see everything in black and white...

[Crudbreeder]

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror
Rammstein - makes use of keyboards

Europe - heavy metal with keyboards
conclusion: Rammstein sounds just like Europe.

well, if you see everything in black and white...

I was just trying to match your level of sillyness.

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror
Rammstein - makes use of keyboards

Europe - heavy metal with keyboards
conclusion: Rammstein sounds just like Europe.

well, if you see everything in black and white...

I was just trying to match your level of sillyness.

riiight... i realized what you were trying to say in the first place, but
you're taking what i said about rammstein/keyboards a little out of context.
i dunno, i guess taking it out of context helps to give you a better
argument.

[Crudbreeder]

Post by Sound Mirror
riiight... i realized what you were trying to say in the first place, but
you're taking what i said about rammstein/keyboards a little out of context.
i dunno, i guess taking it out of context helps to give you a better
argument.

Well, your post suggested that Rammstein was an industrial band simply
because they use keyboards, I was merely pointing out that this might as
well mean that they are a cheesy 80's heavy metal band.

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Crudbreeder

Post by Sound Mirror
Rammstein - makes use of keyboards

Europe - heavy metal with keyboards
conclusion: Rammstein sounds just like Europe.

well, if you see everything in black and white...

I was just trying to match your level of sillyness.

yes, but you apparently forget that humor does not work on him, because
he is a stupid baby.

rammstein sucks regardless of how you classify it, anyhow.
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at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
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[Marian Try Slaughter]

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of

me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't care) -
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

Well, I've probably heard dumber. But that ranks really high up there.

Note: A genre is not defined by its instrumentation, ass.

np: Some opera mixed CD

--
"It's like that old saying: A conservative is a liberal who's been attacked
by aliens."
Simon - mhm27x5

[Sound Mirror]

Post by Marian Try Slaughter

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche of

me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their inept
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't care) -
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Well, I've probably heard dumber. But that ranks really high up there.
Note: A genre is not defined by its instrumentation, ass.

I didn't define it by its instrumentation, ass. I was simply explaining why
Rammstein is at least slightly on topic here, more so than Johnny Cash would
be in alt.synthpop. I said industrial music makes use of keyboards. I did
not say "it's industrial because it uses keyboards/synths/whatever". I don't
know how you inferred that from my post, anyway... but ok

If it's such an issue discussing a band like Rammstein in this newsgroup,
propose one called rec.music.industrial-related

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Marian Try Slaughter

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: Gracious me! I had absolutely NO idea my tastes and sensibilities in

music

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: were so hopelessly outdated and unrefined! Whatever shall I do about

such an

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: unforgivable and embarassingly public faux pas? How completely gauche

of

Post by Marian Try Slaughter

Post by Nev
me

Post by j***@hexdump.org
: to even hint at the name of this long out of favor ensemble: their

inept

Post by Marian Try Slaughter

Post by Nev

Post by j***@hexdump.org
The most gauche thing you did was ask about Rammstein in
rec.music.industrial. THat's like asking about Johnny Cash in
alt.synthpop

Rammstein - makes use of keyboards
Industrial music (save yourself from the elitist definition, i don't

care) -

Post by Marian Try Slaughter

Post by Nev
makes use of keyboards
Johnny Cash - makes use of acoustic guitars
Synth pop - makes use of keyboards
it's really not comparable to cash/synthpop.
so please, no more bad analogies...

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Well, I've probably heard dumber. But that ranks really high up there.
Note: A genre is not defined by its instrumentation, ass.

I didn't define it by its instrumentation, ass. I was simply explaining why
Rammstein is at least slightly on topic here, more so than Johnny Cash would
be in alt.synthpop. I said industrial music makes use of keyboards. I did
not say "it's industrial because it uses keyboards/synths/whatever". I don't
know how you inferred that from my post, anyway... but ok
If it's such an issue discussing a band like Rammstein in this newsgroup,
propose one called rec.music.industrial-related

JOHHNY CASH DID A SHITTY COVER OF ONLY THE BESTE NIN SONG
EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. THAT"S WHY HE"S ON TOPIC HERE FUR US
iRIVETZ TO BLAST HIS LACK OF TALENT AM I RITE

[Keef]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
JOHHNY CASH DID A SHITTY COVER OF ONLY THE BESTE NIN SONG
EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. THAT"S WHY HE"S ON TOPIC HERE FUR US
iRIVETZ TO BLAST HIS LACK OF TALENT AM I RITE

Actually his version was far superior to the original and Johnny Cash
was a diamond. He was one of the last true wild men.

PS. I can understand your difficulty with spelling and caps lock. It's
difficult to watch you monitor and type when your mouth is full of
cock!

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Keef

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
JOHHNY CASH DID A SHITTY COVER OF ONLY THE BESTE NIN SONG
EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. THAT"S WHY HE"S ON TOPIC HERE FUR US
iRIVETZ TO BLAST HIS LACK OF TALENT AM I RITE

Actually his version was far superior to the original and Johnny Cash
was a diamond. He was one of the last true wild men.
PS. I can understand your difficulty with spelling and caps lock. It's
difficult to watch you monitor and type when your mouth is full of
cock!

every cover of a nin song is 1000x better htan the original, for some
reason.


for some reason, trent can apparently write good songs, but fucks up
when he performs them.

also, johnny cash pwns
--
np: nothin'

AIM: WhoKilledtheJAMs
dukncovr at kmfdm dot com
http://www.rit.edu/~pmy5192
http://fleischbackstein.iuma.com
http://brb.whereshitler.com

"i wish i could go see kmfdm. boo.
at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
-Joanna

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Keef

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
JOHHNY CASH DID A SHITTY COVER OF ONLY THE BESTE NIN SONG
EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. THAT"S WHY HE"S ON TOPIC HERE FUR US
iRIVETZ TO BLAST HIS LACK OF TALENT AM I RITE

Actually his version was far superior to the original and Johnny Cash
was a diamond. He was one of the last true wild men.
PS. I can understand your difficulty with spelling and caps lock. It's
difficult to watch you monitor and type when your mouth is full of
cock!

every cover of a nin song is 1000x better htan the original, for some
reason.
for some reason, trent can apparently write good songs, but fucks up
when he performs them.

i still listen to The Fragile every once in awhile. T-Rez can write some
alright instrumentals every once in awhile. His horrible gothic vocals
filled with unneeded swearing and too many references to "skin" ruin any
of that though

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.
also, johnny cash pwns

Yes. I keep meaning to order that Love/God/Murder boxset thing

[Locke]

Post by Sound Mirror
If it's such an issue discussing a band like Rammstein in this newsgroup,
propose one called rec.music.industrial-related

... or better yet rec.music.industrial-unrelated, just in order
to carry on with the good usenet tradition of giving an idea of
the topic of this particular group right in the name of it.

CU,
Locke

NP: Einstürzende Neubauten "Haus der Lüge"

[Marian Try Slaughter]

Post by Sound Mirror

Post by Marian Try Slaughter
That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Well, I've probably heard dumber. But that ranks really high up there.
Note: A genre is not defined by its instrumentation, ass.

I didn't define it by its instrumentation, ass. I was simply explaining why
Rammstein is at least slightly on topic here, more so than Johnny Cash would
be in alt.synthpop. I said industrial music makes use of keyboards. I did
not say "it's industrial because it uses keyboards/synths/whatever". I don't
know how you inferred that from my post, anyway... but ok

And I, like everyone else, is saying that just because they share a common
instrument means fuck all as to if they're related in any meaningful way.

Post by Sound Mirror
If it's such an issue discussing a band like Rammstein in this newsgroup,
propose one called rec.music.industrial-related

Heh. That'd probably get more traffic than here, anyhow.

np: Sneaker pimps - bloodsport

--
"It's like that old saying: A conservative is a liberal who's been attacked
by aliens."
Simon - mhm27x5

[DJ Maniak]

Du Hast = You Hate
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me


DJ Maniak

Put on ya leather pants/and do the isolation dance/like some stupid-ass Goth
kid that didn't stand a chance against me

The Four Horsemen: Kicking the shit out of people with baseball bats and tire
irons in parking lots since 1985.

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast = You Hate
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me

too bad in the context of the song it's "You Have"

[Wayne Redick]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast = You Hate
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me

too bad in the context of the song it's "You Have"

I think it is " Du Hass,Du Hass Mich " (trans: you hate,you hate me)
Hass can also mean "ugly".Hasslich = ugly.

ich hab
du hast
Ihr Hast

My German is a bit rusty.

WR

[Loki Ambrodious von Esling]

Post by Wayne Redick

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast = You Hate
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me

too bad in the context of the song it's "You Have"

I think it is " Du Hass,Du Hass Mich " (trans: you hate,you hate me)
Hass can also mean "ugly".Hasslich = ugly.
ich hab
du hast
Ihr Hast
My German is a bit rusty.

The song essentially is a play on typical marriage vows, so it being
"have" would make more sense. (it's something along the lines of "You
have asked me to stay with you or something.)

Gah, why do I care about rammstein.

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling
Gah, why do I care about rammstein.

the answer-- you do not. also, steve is still a jackass.
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dukncovr at kmfdm dot com
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http://brb.whereshitler.com

"i wish i could go see kmfdm. boo.
at least i get to see paul BIG PENIS yancy"
-Joanna

[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by Wayne Redick

Post by Loki Ambrodious von Esling

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast = You Hate
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me

too bad in the context of the song it's "You Have"

I think it is " Du Hass,Du Hass Mich " (trans: you hate,you hate me)
Hass can also mean "ugly".Hasslich = ugly.

It's the "asked" in past perfect - Du hast, Du hast mich, Du hast mich
gefragt. The "hate" thing may be double meaning, though. Oh, and as KMFDM/Die
Krupps rip-offs, Rammstein are as on-topic here as anywhere.

Girl.

[Todd Clayton]

Post by DJ Maniak
The Four Horsemen: Kicking the shit out of people with baseball bats and tire
irons in parking lots since 1985.

Sigh. Good memories of the 1980's. Seeing Dusty Rhodes getting mugged in
a parking lot.
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[Rachael]

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast = You Hate

No. "du hast" is "you have"; but
it is homonymous to "du haßt/hasst" = "you hate".

Post by DJ Maniak
Du Hast Mesche (sp?) = You Hate Me

"du hast mich" = "you have me";
the same pun as above applies here.

Rachael
listening to In Slaughter Natives - Sacrosancts Bleed