Einstuerzende Neubauten web project CD

[Locke]

Everybody who cares for Einstürzende Neubauten has probably heard about
their subscription-based independent online recording project. Well, the
project has been finished and it was a moderate success. The band
managed to pull it off and gather enough support to finance the
recording of new material. The first part of these sessions was
released recently as a limited CD only for the subscribers, aptly titled
"Supporter Album #1". The rest of the material (and about three tracks
from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
next year.

However, there was one problem with "Supporter Album #1" - the initial
pressing had an error that caused a minor glitch in one of the tracks.
As soon as the band realized the problem they promised to replace the
defective copies, but just the CDs and not the original packaging.
This is going to happen soon. Since the defective copies remain with
the subscribers I predict that many of them will end up on Ebay as soon
as the replacement copies arrive.

So if you see a copy of this "Supporter Album #1" for sale anywhere
(Ebay or whatever) you should consider these questions: Is the copy
you're going to buy one of the defective disks or one of the (hopefully)
error-free replacements? And: Does this copy come in the original
packaging (hand-numbered cardboard envelope with a small poster)?

This post is meant to inform you before anyone pays inflated prices for
an inferior product, so feel free to distribute it freely and tell your
friends.

Thank you.

CU,
Locke

NP: Laibach "WAT"

[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by Locke
So if you see a copy of this "Supporter Album #1" for sale anywhere
(Ebay or whatever) you should consider these questions: Is the copy
you're going to buy one of the defective disks or one of the (hopefully)
error-free replacements?

Hmmm, methinks your misjudging the obsessive collector mindset, wherein the
very limited faulty copies will be more valuable than the less limited
error-free replacements. I'd expect to see the faulty ones very clearly marked
as being faulty.

Girl.

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Locke
So if you see a copy of this "Supporter Album #1" for sale anywhere
(Ebay or whatever) you should consider these questions: Is the copy
you're going to buy one of the defective disks or one of the (hopefully)
error-free replacements?

Hmmm, methinks your misjudging the obsessive collector mindset, wherein the
very limited faulty copies will be more valuable than the less limited
error-free replacements. I'd expect to see the faulty ones very clearly marked
as being faulty.
Girl.

yeah, but on the other hand, ebay = retard magnet. almost everything
that's billed as 'limited' release ends up being grossly overpriced,
regardless of whether there is any rational justification or not.
--
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Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Locke
So if you see a copy of this "Supporter Album #1" for sale anywhere
(Ebay or whatever) you should consider these questions: Is the copy
you're going to buy one of the defective disks or one of the (hopefully)
error-free replacements?

Hmmm, methinks your misjudging the obsessive collector mindset, wherein the
very limited faulty copies will be more valuable than the less limited
error-free replacements. I'd expect to see the faulty ones very clearly marked
as being faulty.

yeah, but on the other hand, ebay = retard magnet. almost everything
that's billed as 'limited' release ends up being grossly overpriced,
regardless of whether there is any rational justification or not.

Oh yeah. I actually felt the need to contact one seller about the blatant
stupidity/false advertising of the "Japanese" version of a Foetus album on
Some Bizarre. I think it was stupidity, he seemed to think the Japanese
writing on the record meant it was a Japanese issue (despite the UK record
label). Anyway, it didn't sell.

Girl.

[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist

Post by Locke
So if you see a copy of this "Supporter Album #1" for sale anywhere
(Ebay or whatever) you should consider these questions: Is the copy
you're going to buy one of the defective disks or one of the (hopefully)
error-free replacements?

Hmmm, methinks your misjudging the obsessive collector mindset, wherein

the

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
very limited faulty copies will be more valuable than the less limited
error-free replacements. I'd expect to see the faulty ones very clearly

marked

Post by Paul's penis is HELL, boy.

Post by Girl the Bourgeois Individualist
as being faulty.

yeah, but on the other hand, ebay = retard magnet. almost everything
that's billed as 'limited' release ends up being grossly overpriced,
regardless of whether there is any rational justification or not.

Oh yeah. I actually felt the need to contact one seller about the blatant
stupidity/false advertising of the "Japanese" version of a Foetus album on
Some Bizarre. I think it was stupidity, he seemed to think the Japanese
writing on the record meant it was a Japanese issue (despite the UK record
label). Anyway, it didn't sell.

That said, I have also managed to pick up really rare stuff for next to
nothing, like a white label of Neubauten's "Haus der Luge" for, IIRC, £6 (less
than the reissue costs).

Girl.

[Locke]

Please let me quote Girl the Bourgeois Individualist...
|Hmmm, methinks your misjudging the obsessive collector mindset, wherein the
|very limited faulty copies will be more valuable than the less limited
|error-free replacements. I'd expect to see the faulty ones very clearly marked
|as being faulty.

Oh, I know the obsessive collector's mindset well enough, trust me.
It's just that in this case AFAIK the defective run is not rarer than
the replacement edition since every supporter got one defective disk and
will be getting exactly one replacement.

Personally, I'll keep my defective copy for a few years and hopefully
one day those obsessive Neubauten collectors will finance the university
education for my children.

CU,
Locke

NP: Einstürzende Neubauten "Ende Neu"

[Chris Christian]

Post by Locke
Oh, I know the obsessive collector's mindset well enough, trust me.
It's just that in this case AFAIK the defective run is not rarer than
the replacement edition since every supporter got one defective disk and
will be getting exactly one replacement.

The odd thing about the supposed defecetive copy is that my copy isn't
defective. I've played it in dozens of players dozens of times and
have absolutely no issues whatsoever with my copy. Weird. It must
be because I spent time in Berlin this summer to ward off the bad luck.

Jester

[Zotz]

Post by Chris Christian

Post by Locke
Oh, I know the obsessive collector's mindset well enough, trust me.
It's just that in this case AFAIK the defective run is not rarer than
the replacement edition since every supporter got one defective disk and
will be getting exactly one replacement.

The odd thing about the supposed defecetive copy is that my copy isn't
defective. I've played it in dozens of players dozens of times and
have absolutely no issues whatsoever with my copy. Weird. It must
be because I spent time in Berlin this summer to ward off the bad luck.

Mine drops out quite a few times. The only other person I know to get
one got a perfect one. Just a matter of luck.



G.

[nicolas chevreux]

Post by Locke
a moderate success.

How surprising.

Post by Locke
The rest of the material (and about three tracks
from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
next year.

Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?

Nicolas

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[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by nicolas chevreux

Post by Locke
a moderate success.

How surprising.

Post by Locke
The rest of the material (and about three tracks
from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
next year.

Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?

EN were a little quick, methinks, to think that Mute had "sold out". It does
seem like business as usual with a bit of big label financial backing. If
anything, Mute have been releasing more new experimental stuff, pioneering
stuff like the CDs and MP3s comp and rereleasing classic old stuff. So there's
obviously been a change of heart.

Girl.

[Locke]

Please let me quote nicolas chevreux...
|>The rest of the material (and about three tracks
|>from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
|>next year.
|
|Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?

Well, the original idea was to record an album without help and
interference from any record label. Apparently the band has realized
that worldwide distribution of the finished album would be an
organizational nightmare and impossible for them to do. Therefore they
decided to split the material in two parts, one limited to the
subscribers only and one for public release through a conventional
record label.

AFAIK Neubauten did not have any problems with Mute records whatsoever.
Their recent trouble was with their primary German label. Mute was just
their international distributor anyway. In Germany they had signed a
contract with Rough Trade Germany which was subsequently bought out by
Zomba (home label of Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears AFAIK) who were
later bought out by the major company Bertelsmann. This led to many
changes in the label structure and therefore Neubauten's growing
dissatisfaction with the music industry.

CU,
Locke

NP: Wiseblood "PTTM"

[Girl the Bourgeois Individualist]

Post by Locke
Please let me quote nicolas chevreux...
|>The rest of the material (and about three tracks
|>from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
|>next year.
|
|Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?
Well, the original idea was to record an album without help and
interference from any record label. Apparently the band has realized
that worldwide distribution of the finished album would be an
organizational nightmare and impossible for them to do. Therefore they
decided to split the material in two parts, one limited to the
subscribers only and one for public release through a conventional
record label.
AFAIK Neubauten did not have any problems with Mute records whatsoever.

I thought they pulled back from Mute when one of the majors (Warners?) bought
the label.

DDGirl.

[Paul's penis is HELL, boy.]

Post by Locke
Please let me quote nicolas chevreux...
|>The rest of the material (and about three tracks
|>from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
|>next year.
|
|Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?
Well, the original idea was to record an album without help and
interference from any record label. Apparently the band has realized
that worldwide distribution of the finished album would be an
organizational nightmare and impossible for them to do. Therefore they
decided to split the material in two parts, one limited to the
subscribers only and one for public release through a conventional
record label.
AFAIK Neubauten did not have any problems with Mute records whatsoever.
Their recent trouble was with their primary German label. Mute was just
their international distributor anyway. In Germany they had signed a
contract with Rough Trade Germany which was subsequently bought out by
Zomba (home label of Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears AFAIK) who were
later bought out by the major company Bertelsmann. This led to many
changes in the label structure and therefore Neubauten's growing
dissatisfaction with the music industry.

"who should we market better-- Pop Star #462... or these wierd guys
hitting metal things?"
--
np: nothin'

AIM: WhoKilledtheJAMs
dukncovr at kmfdm dot com
http://www.rit.edu/~pmy5192
http://fleischbackstein.iuma.com
http://brb.whereshitler.com

"youre just jelous because after 8 years online i still cant type right

bitch"
-Brett

[Colin Baker]

Zomba

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING AT ZOMBOCOM
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[neoclassical]

Post by nicolas chevreux

Post by Locke
The rest of the material (and about three tracks
from the limited CD) will end up on an official album release on Mute
next year.

Wasn't the point of this that EN wanted not to work with Mute anymore?

It's a contract-buster, then.