Covenant? Oneiroid Psychosis?

[mimus]

I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

Oneiroid Psychosis did some Android Lust remixes, which showed that they
aren't afraid of throbbing, either, so what about them? are they throbby?
what would be _their_ best to start with?

[Slipface]

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?
Oneiroid Psychosis did some Android Lust remixes, which showed that they
aren't afraid of throbbing, either, so what about them? are they throbby?
what would be _their_ best to start with?

Dunno what you mean by 'throbby' but Oneiroid Psychosis is dark and
slooooowwww... AT least the one album I have. Very good stuff.

As for Covenant, I recommend starting with Northern Light. I haven't
warmed up much to Skyshaper. They have had an interesting range of
styles, ranging from the very-80s sounding (some of which works, like
Dead Stars, and some of which just sounds silly) to a more modern
EBM-synthpop blend.

_d

[mimus]

Post by Slipface

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?
Oneiroid Psychosis did some Android Lust remixes, which showed that they
aren't afraid of throbbing, either, so what about them? are they throbby?
what would be _their_ best to start with?

Dunno what you mean by 'throbby'

Oh, c'mon. That luvverly electro-EBM throb.

Post by Slipface
but Oneiroid Psychosis is dark and
slooooowwww... AT least the one album I have. Very good stuff.

Uh. I had IIRC Gridlock's IIRC _Synthesis_ once and it was IIRC like on
long slow metal scream or something like that. I prefer something at
least as lively as, say, Plastic Noise Experience, which is about my limit
on the low and minimal end. Naturally, a slow segment or piece here 'n'
there is fine, as is a soft one, and "very good" anyway, huh?

Post by Slipface
As for Covenant, I recommend starting with Northern Light. I haven't
warmed up much to Skyshaper. They have had an interesting range of
styles, ranging from the very-80s sounding (some of which works, like
Dead Stars, and some of which just sounds silly) to a more modern
EBM-synthpop blend.

Hm, Labreque sez before _United States of Mind_, but you say they came
late to an EBM sound.

[Francois Labreque]

Post by mimus

Post by Slipface
As for Covenant, I recommend starting with Northern Light. I haven't
warmed up much to Skyshaper. They have had an interesting range of
styles, ranging from the very-80s sounding (some of which works, like
Dead Stars, and some of which just sounds silly) to a more modern
EBM-synthpop blend.

Hm, Labreque sez before _United States of Mind_, but you say they came
late to an EBM sound.

They've always been EBM-synthpop blend, IMHO. Back in the days, I
thought _Sequencer_ and _Europa_ were decent, found _USoM_ to be "meh."
and I completely lost interest when I heard "Call the ships to port" on
Todd's show. But as I said, part of it is because I moved on from EBM
and synthpop, not necessarily because they were weaker albums.

Slipface recommends the newer albums, so your mileage will definitely vary.

[Francois Labreque]

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

[mimus]

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

What'd they do, sink into synth-pop? (Not that all synth-pop is bad,
since that's what I consider Thomas Dolby to have been, and more power to
him.)

(Yes, more power is definitely what he needed.)

[naedyr]

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

My personal favorite album is Sequencer:Beta.
It's probably the least 80's sounding I've heard from them,
which for me is a plus.
nfi what throbby means though .....

[mimus]

Post by naedyr

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

My personal favorite album is Sequencer:Beta.
It's probably the least 80's sounding I've heard from them,
which for me is a plus.
nfi what throbby means though .....

I would've thought it was obvious here, but I sometimes suspect English
was not my first language.

[naedyr]

Post by mimus

Post by naedyr

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

My personal favorite album is Sequencer:Beta.
It's probably the least 80's sounding I've heard from them,
which for me is a plus.
nfi what throbby means though .....

I would've thought it was obvious here, but I sometimes suspect English
was not my first language.

Post by naedyr
Dunno what you mean by 'throbby'

Oh, c'mon. That luvverly electro-EBM throb.

Yeah, once explained it does seem to be a fairly descriptive word.

[Girl <last name>]

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

Northern Light is, school-children choir aside, pretty damn good, it sounds
like the album that would have come after "Europa" if they hadn't flirted
with the futurepop sound. "Skyshaper", on the other hand, sounded to me like
a band that's fun out of ideas.

D.

[Girl <last name>]

Post by Girl <last name>

Post by Francois Labreque

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?

I think the consensus is that stuff that came before "United State of
Mind" is better. I got into Covenant a bit late in the game, and have
since moved on from EBM, so don't take my word as the definitive answer.

Northern Light is, school-children choir aside, pretty damn good, it
sounds like the album that would have come after "Europa" if they hadn't
flirted with the futurepop sound. "Skyshaper", on the other hand, sounded
to me like a band that's fun out of ideas.

run out of ideas, even.

Girl.

[Albino Leviathan]

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups, and I
believe Covenant is one, but have never heard one of their albums, and if
they are throbby what would be the best release(s) to start with?
Oneiroid Psychosis did some Android Lust remixes, which showed that they
aren't afraid of throbbing, either, so what about them? are they throbby?
what would be _their_ best to start with?

I simply like their most recent, Skyshaper. There are two versions.
One has one CD. The other has a second CD and is about $3.00 more. On
the second disc there is a song called, "Subterfugue for Absynths."
It's 40 minutes long and really wears on you. If I had it to do over
again, I'd just get the regular version rather than the special edition.

But I haven't heard any releases before Skyshaper....

As for throbbing, I have been getting into a lot of the Metropolis and
Alfa Matrix dancey EBM style music: God Module, Combichrist, SITD,
Suicide Commando, Flesh Field, etc. All mostly four-to-the-floor
rhythms and a bit like dark trance with sneering vocals.

I am also enjoying Mentallo and the Fixer's "Commandments for the
Molecular Age" and the latest Frontline Assembly album, "Artificial
Soldier." On the latter, you can really tell that Bill Leeb digs Drum
and Bass music. I read a review somewhere that someone thought it
sounded too much like one of his other projects, Noise Unit. But I
disagree. Oh, and "Moment of Silence" by Decree is a good album with
some droning throbbing going on in a few songs.

Covenant's Skyshaper is more like a chill album compared to those. Kind
of a way to stay in the dark electronica vein while staying "true" to
the genre.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth on recent releases.

[mimus]

Post by Albino Leviathan
I am also enjoying Mentallo and the Fixer's "Commandments for the
Molecular Age"

I love _Burnt Beyond Recognition_. But isn't _CftMA_ by only *one*
Dassing brother? How does that compare to the _Burnt_ era music?

Post by Albino Leviathan
and the latest Frontline Assembly

album, "Artificial Soldier." On the

Post by Albino Leviathan
latter, you can really tell that Bill Leeb digs Drum and Bass music.

I figured that out from _Live Wired_.

Why use just one drum kit, eh?

(That version of "Bio-Mechanic" I consider his single greatest track.)

Post by Albino Leviathan
I
read a review somewhere that someone thought it sounded too much like
one of his other projects, Noise Unit.

He's the world's worst at putting out tons of albums under a variety
of names with one or two good songs on each and the rest fairly mediocre,
although I exclude the very solid FLA releases _Tactical Neural Implant_
("EBM-'n'-roll"?) and _Hard Wired_ from this general observation.

Basically, if he just stuck with FLA and saved about ninety percent of his
output for some _Back and Forth_ type releases of studio foolery, he'd be
a giant.

Although he seems to be considered Least Likely to Win Mr. Congeniality by
the rest of the genre.

[Nicolas Chevreux]

Hello,

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups,

Throbbing Gristle?

Nicolas

[mimus]

Post by Nicolas Chevreux
Hello,

Post by mimus
I'm constantly trying to expand me base of quality throbby groups,

Throbbing Gristle?

Heading that way, although it seems a dreadfully retro move.

[Nicolas Chevreux]

Hey,

Post by mimus
Heading that way, although it seems a dreadfully retro move.

Then I guess your only hope is Scooter.

Nicolas

[mimus]

Post by Nicolas Chevreux
Hey,

Post by mimus
Heading that way, although it seems a dreadfully retro move.

Then I guess your only hope is Scooter.

WTF's a "Scooter"?

[Nicolas Chevreux]

Hey,

Post by mimus
WTF's a "Scooter"?

Some guy who doesn't need Google to tell you how much is the fish.

Nicolas

[mimus]

Post by Nicolas Chevreux
Hey,

Post by mimus
WTF's a "Scooter"?

Some guy who doesn't need Google to tell you how much is the fish.

Please explain your explanation.

Thnx.

[Wayner]

Post by mimus
WTF's a "Scooter"?

cheesy german techno,of which there is much.
URL is www.scootertechno.com