Stang's right: Anybody CAN make techno music!

[just john]

In Hour of Slack #994 (available here:
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=program-info&program_id=12533&nav=&
), Reverend Stang mentions he'd been making techno music, and that
ANYBODY can make techno music.

He's right, and this is a Good Thing. (Good that anybody can make
techno music, that is. Whether Stang being right is good or not is
another matter. We'll deal with that if it becomes a habit.)

Why is this good, you ask? I'll tell you.

Techno music is the new folk music. Yup, beat boxes generally cost less
than guitars of comparable sound quality.

So now we can go back to something like when middle class parlors all
featured pianos or pump organs or both, and every family had somebody
who could operate these instruments.

Those were the days before Big Music took over our sonic environments.
And with the advent of beat boxes, freeware and inexpensive CD burning,
Big Music will be cut back down to Moderately Large Music as the
amateurs take over -- as the PEOPLE take over!

My dream (the one that doesn't involve involuntary public nudity on my
part) is that your average person's music collection will be mostly
stuff of that person's friends, family, and that person herself.

(And I'm not just saying all this 'cuz Stang uses MY techno music as the
backdrop for much of that Hour of Slack.)

[Rufus Leaking]

<< So now we can go back to something like when middle class parlors
all
featured pianos or pump organs or both, and every family had somebody
who could operate these instruments.

Those were the days before Big Music took over our sonic environments
actually, those were the days that invented, for lack of better word,
the Big Music you speak of. That golden era of the Sheet Music
consortium and Tin Pan Alley and the beginnings of the Brill Building.
Scads of thousands, if not millions of dollars into the publishers of
sheet music, pennies to the songwriters. Most people were buying music
to play and not really composing their own in those parlours. Not to
mention it more or less spawned the bootleg music industry in the form
of pirate, counterfiet and outright "booklegged" works...

But I do agree that the modern technology frees up the budding artist
from the "show" side of showbizness. Anyone with a couple hundred to
drop on gear and software can compete with the record companies (well,
more or less, they still hold the power, even in the CCM realm) and get
their art to the masses...

Dave

[RevAlex]

What if it's not worth listening to? The last thing we need is to glut
the market with some yokel's bad thump-thump acid house crap.

[just john]

Post by RevAlex
What if it's not worth listening to? The last thing we need is to glut
the market with some yokel's bad thump-thump acid house crap.

A) You're waaaaaay too late to start worrying about that now. Or are
you living in the one part of this globe where people are going about,
saying "Wow! Popular music is really fresh and enjoyable, these days!"

B) WHAT market? That was kinda my point. People looking for bad
thump-thump (sounds like a euphemism for something else) acid house crap
will go look for at at sites that vend it. The rest of us will be
listening to our favorite bits from each other.



(And I must confess to getting the Hour of Slack number wrong. It's 995.)

[Rev. Ivan Stang]

Post by just john

Post by RevAlex
What if it's not worth listening to? The last thing we need is to glut
the market with some yokel's bad thump-thump acid house crap.

A) You're waaaaaay too late to start worrying about that now. Or are
you living in the one part of this globe where people are going about,
saying "Wow! Popular music is really fresh and enjoyable, these days!"
B) WHAT market? That was kinda my point. People looking for bad
thump-thump (sounds like a euphemism for something else) acid house crap
will go look for at at sites that vend it. The rest of us will be
listening to our favorite bits from each other.
(And I must confess to getting the Hour of Slack number wrong. It's 995.)

I looked at the stats of the shows today on Radio4all (I have NO IDEA
what the OGG traffic is). The ones that have SEX in the title will have
like 500 downloads whereas the ones that have like "Bob" or X-Day in
the title only do about 300.

The one with "JRUGZ" in the title got the MOST, almost 800 downloads.
And Mental Illness drew a lot.

It's official -- in SubGenius MP3 downloadville, DRUGS are bigger than
SEX or "BOB."

Got my work cut out for me!

[RevAlex]

A) True. Complaining about the effects of media democratization at THIS
stage in the game does make me sound like Time Magazine. I just felt
like playing devil's advocate in the spirit of Theodore Sturgeon.

B) There is always a market. How do you suppose folk music got to be
what it was? The myth is that a group of laborers would begin a chant
that would become a chorus that would progress through the ages and
evolve into a time-honored classic song. The truth is that by
themselves (or in small, traveling bands) minstrels and balladeers
would compose tunes that were the "singles" of their day.

The great thing about life in 2005 is that anybody CAN make DAMN NEAR
ANYTHING.

[unknown]

Post by RevAlex
A) True. Complaining about the effects of media democratization at THIS
stage in the game does make me sound like Time Magazine. I just felt
like playing devil's advocate in the spirit of Theodore Sturgeon.
B) There is always a market. How do you suppose folk music got to be
what it was? The myth is that a group of laborers would begin a chant
that would become a chorus that would progress through the ages and
evolve into a time-honored classic song. The truth is that by
themselves (or in small, traveling bands) minstrels and balladeers
would compose tunes that were the "singles" of their day.
The great thing about life in 2005 is that anybody CAN make DAMN NEAR
ANYTHING.

and the great thing about the internet is, they can upload it and
nobody has to listen to it?

It's a GOLDEN BAND.

[unknown]

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:45:42 -0700, Zapanaz

Post by unknown
and the great thing about the internet is, they can upload it and
nobody has to listen to it?

D'OH!!

that was supposed to be "listen to it!", and not "listen to it?"

[tetraplan]

Post by RevAlex
acid house crap

"Acid-house" and "crap" cannot exist in one sentence.

[Todd Clayton]

Post by tetraplan

Post by RevAlex
acid house crap

"Acid-house" and "crap" cannot exist in one sentence.

Very agreed.
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[Tom]

There are a whole lot of people who would appreciate your not
crossposting to offtopic groups. You really don't impress people that
way.

Thanks,

Tom

Post by just john
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=program-info&program_id=12533&nav
=&
), Reverend Stang mentions he'd been making techno music, and that
ANYBODY can make techno music.
He's right, and this is a Good Thing. (Good that anybody can make
techno music, that is. Whether Stang being right is good or not is
another matter. We'll deal with that if it becomes a habit.)
Why is this good, you ask? I'll tell you.
Techno music is the new folk music. Yup, beat boxes generally cost
less than guitars of comparable sound quality.
So now we can go back to something like when middle class parlors all
featured pianos or pump organs or both, and every family had somebody
who could operate these instruments.
Those were the days before Big Music took over our sonic environments.
And with the advent of beat boxes, freeware and inexpensive CD
burning, Big Music will be cut back down to Moderately Large Music as
the amateurs take over -- as the PEOPLE take over!
My dream (the one that doesn't involve involuntary public nudity on my
part) is that your average person's music collection will be mostly
stuff of that person's friends, family, and that person herself.
(And I'm not just saying all this 'cuz Stang uses MY techno music as
the backdrop for much of that Hour of Slack.)

[just john]

Post by Tom
There are a whole lot of people who would appreciate your not
crossposting to offtopic groups. You really don't impress people that
way.
Thanks,
Tom

On topic for alt.slack: Reverend Stang content

On topic for rec.music.christian: We're talking about techno/folk as
religious music. Half the people who post to music instrument hardware
boards tell us they're using their electronic music gear for christian
chruch music.

On topic for rec.music.industrial: Techno music content

On topic for rec.music.folk: My assertion that techno is folk music

All ON TOPIC.

So get a life, Tom. And no, you can't have mine.

[Bryce]

Post by just john
On topic for rec.music.industrial: Techno music content

Which part of industrial is Techno. In fact, I dare you to try to give
a definition of "Industrial" music...

--
now with more cowbell

[Balaam's Miracle]

Post by Bryce

Post by just john
On topic for rec.music.industrial: Techno music content

Which part of industrial is Techno. In fact, I dare you to try to give
a definition of "Industrial" music...

I think he confuses Industrial with Electrorock...

[just john]

Post by Balaam's Miracle
I think he confuses Industrial with Electrorock...

No, like Stang, I'm using a very, very broad definition of "Techno" as
applying to anything that uses automation and sounds like more people
playing at once than actually are.

For instance: Ministry, in the studio.

(And Baptist Death Ray, to keep the r.m.c readers amused.)

Unless they've changed since I saw them play, Ministry is also a great
example of what I call loud folk music. Not very complex, but quite
satisfying.

I gave up on micro-tuning of music genres after being congratulated for
making such a great IDM track and then having to go find out what IDM
stood for.

[Rev. Ivan Stang]

Post by just john

Post by Balaam's Miracle
I think he confuses Industrial with Electrorock...

No, like Stang, I'm using a very, very broad definition of "Techno" as
applying to anything that uses automation and sounds like more people
playing at once than actually are.
For instance: Ministry, in the studio.
(And Baptist Death Ray, to keep the r.m.c readers amused.)
Unless they've changed since I saw them play, Ministry is also a great
example of what I call loud folk music. Not very complex, but quite
satisfying.
I gave up on micro-tuning of music genres after being congratulated for
making such a great IDM track and then having to go find out what IDM
stood for.

Right on.

What DOES it stand for?

Industrial Death Metal?

Innocent Doggie Music?

[Lech]

Post by Rev. Ivan Stang
What DOES it stand for?
Industrial Death Metal?
Innocent Doggie Music?

In this particular context, one would assume it stands for "Intelligent /
Intellectual Dance Music" -- regardless of whether any 'intelligence' &/or
'dancing' is involved.

Yrs, &c. Lech

np: Portion Control, "Blood Rushed to Head"