This is a follow up to Bob Griffin's postings on Usenet.
This text is regarding the cyber harassment and cyber stalking of Bob
Griffin ***@hotmail.com. Bob is also known as
Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com and "Vindicat0r"
***@hotmail.com Bob Griffin is a resident of Sydney,
Australia.
Bob Griffin's history of Usenet abuse spans some two-years on
newsgroups called alt.suicide.holiday and alt.suicide.methods.
Bob griffin has relentlessly stalked and harassed many posters on
these news groups, by threatening other Usenet posters with physical
harm, posting their personal information such as names and addresses
and also threatening legal action against them.
The most current occurrences of cyber harassment are posted below:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3FF0AB87.9C99D345%40hotmail.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
In the above posting, Bob Griffin has exposed the names of several
people who post on Usenet, without there permission. One of the people
mentioned on this list does not post to Usenet and he is in fact a
lawyer. Bob Griffin then went as far as to state that all these people
on this list were involved in some sort of conspiracy against him,
whereas these people, from their remote locations all over North
America, were somehow able to cause the break up of himself with his
girl friend. Here is the Usenet article posted by Bob Griffin, which
he has now "NUKED" at Google groups (I managed to save the article,
with complete headers). I have removed the last names of the people
who were libeled in Bob Griffin's posting, to protect them.
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From: Bob Griffin <***@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.suicide.methods
Subject: To Patrick M. S's "darling" Cori W: a confession
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:47:36 +1100
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Hello, Cori W aka Cori W, you slandering slag!
How's it going? Groomed any dogs lately?
How's you pal Douglas W, who you LIED FOR and LIBELED FOR and have now
landed
yourself in a whole HEAP OF SHIT FOR?
Awww. You two predators have had a falling out, eh?
What's that matter? Not enough blood for you sickos to splatter
around, eh?
Remember this bit of libel you peddled in
Ha remember me??? When we met on a certain web site I was Gothic Tears. I
eluded to you that I was having suicidal thoughts and you posted the old
Xanthia Site for all to see. So how many are dead because of you??? said you
thought it was beautiful how I would cut listening to a certain band music.
How beautiful it was to die bleeding. And you call me a stalker. You fucked
with a suicidal girls head !!! You sick bastard and now Grace may be dead
because of you. Me and Grace may not get along but I never wished her dead.
And I never would have got caught up in ASH if it wasn't for you. If Grace
is dead you should be in jail for murder.
Cori
.... and then you smeared MY GOOD NAME in
<bo4qoj$1839bj$***@ID-94123.news.uni-berlin.de>.
I remember it well.
Well Cori W, you fucking liar -- let's get a few facts straight, shall
we?
What web site did you post under the name "Gothic Tears? What is the
URL of the site?
What was the EXACT DATE of this alleged post?
Or, was it one of Patrick M. S's manufactured sites created to smear
me?
What "suicidal girl's head" did I "mess" with?
Names and dates, Cori W! POST THEM NOW!
And you lie that "Grace may be dead because of [me]"?
Well Cori W: why don't YOU admit that YOU were part of a conspiricy
together
with Patrick M. S, Jeffery L, Lenore L, Louis C J, and Douglas
R W, to manipulate Grace R A (a woman diagnosed with both bipolar
disorder
and boarderline personality disorder) into betraying to one Patrick M.
S, my
name and personal info? That YOU and they conspired with a shitbag to
POST HER ADDRESS
VIA ANONYMOUS REMAILER and then have S play on her feelings and
slander me
insessantly, so S could THEN MANIPULATE HER into handing over my info,
by
convincing that stupid dupicitus drama queen that I had done that?
How do you dismiss Patrick M. S's ABUSE of another person close to me
as a "JOKE", when Grace R A didn't have all the info you scum wanted?
Oh yes -- of course you can quote the EXACT TEXT where you FALSELY
ALLEGE how I "thought it
was beautiful how [you] would cut listening to a certain band music"?
Or.. is is just another libelous lie from Cori W the mad bitch of
Manhattan?
Did Douglas W tell you to post this slander? After all, you and
Douglas Wiser were
fellow preditors, weren't you? That's why Wiser gave you his
news.CIS.dfn.de account to
post through... Right?
Like you pal Shagger Bint: do you deny your own posts?
Let's jog your sieve like memory, Crazy Cori:
aca0a2a1.ipt.aol.com (172.160.162.161)
And now, *I* have a confession to make:
I intend to SUE YOUR FUCKING FAT ARSE OFF for that!
I also intend to sue you and pursue criminal charges against you, Cori
Wasserman,
Feel free to contact my attorney, if you're in any doubt:
Coudert Brothers LLP
1114 Avenue of the Americas
New York
10036
Phone: 1 212 626 4400
http://www.coudert.com
It's not a long walk from there to 212 West 20th Street, is it?
You pathetic, illiterate, child slalking moron!
I wonder if Toffer L wants to come along to watch the fun?
Did you invite Toffer L up to your apartment to have sex with him?
I refer to his post of Friday, 24 Jan 2003 21:04:52 EST, where Toffer
leave us the hell alone, especially the
damn child molesters like patience that try to lure young adults into their
nyc apartment and try to rape them.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e320392%40news.peakpeak.com
Is this why you tried to get Toffer L into trouble, Cori W?
Or, was it to diffuse his allegations of you stalking both Toffer L
and his girlfriend, which
he claimed in a post made on Saturday, 18 Jan 2003 at 07:52:19 GMT?
And my
girlfriend didn't get any laughs out of it, she thought you were annoying
bitch that called her every hour when she was in class. Never got any laughs
out of it, just got pissed of for wasting her minutes. Don't fucking call
her cell again, she's already pissed enough and she is pretty unstable. Any
more comments?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com
Is this why you reported Toffer L to the Littleton Police, to counter
the claim where he alleged you tried to "lure young adults into their
nyc apartment and
try to rape them"?
Did you tell the New York State Police about *that*, Cori W?
Or, did you file a false report to the New York State Police about
me...
to stop ME revealing your history of perverted predatory conduct
towards minors?
Gee, you better have lied about that! See, filing false reports to
police in New York is a
misdemeanor!
If you did make such a report: don't worry; I'll make sure to press
charges, then sue you
for that, too! :)
Who is just another liar, like her former "hero" Douglas W and
current "hero" and fellow preditor, the self-admitted jailbird,
Patrick M. S?
Well, Cori W?
Guess we will find out, won't we, puddin'?
See you in court, bitch!
[end]
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In this above "NUKED" posting, Bob Griffin clearly stated that there
was some sort of conspiracy at work against him. This is completely
false. And this conspiracy only exists in the mind of Bob Griffin.
Bob Griffin has wrongly libeled the people mentioned in his posting.
Bob Griffin has made mention that Cori W. is a child molester and this
is false and libelous, as well as harassment. There was no conspiracy
directed at Bob Griffin, which Bob claimed there was. And it should be
noted that the information that Bob Griffin has posted has been added
to police files in various parts of the world. Bob Griffin also posted
the name of his ex girl friend, labeled her as being a mental
defective, then later stated that he is going to sue her. Bob Griffin
made the claim that his is going to sue four ASH posters, including
Patrick, Cori, Sugar and Grace. However, no court in the land would
recognize such frivolousness, after Bob Griffin has posted such hatred
as he has done in the below postings:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=I%27d+condone+almost+anything+that+would+shut+this+stupid,+trolling,&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ECEB024.318FF268%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
It was continued threats like the above that got Robert Griffin an
open file with the NYC police and other legal agencies. And please see
the links below which show Robert Griffin's true feelings about women
on Usenet and off of Usenet:
[start]
--
"But your hellhole sounds far too much like a place I worked in, right
down to the office slut, the petty pilfering, the daycare centre and
the singing chipmunk singalongs ... LOL."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=down+to+the+office+slut,+the+petty+pilfering&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3F13EE21.A1D6B604%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Which reminds me... LOL... A friend and I went into a smut shop in NYC
for one after dinner not so long ago... oh yes; 'twas a fellow ASHer.
We were thinking of suitable titles to send off to someone... like
"Butch Jail Sluts" http://groups.google.com/groups?q=We+were+thinking+of+suitable+titles+to+send+off+to+someone...+like+%22Butch+Jail+Sluts%22+smut+shop+in+NYC&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3F641BB1.73D06F1F%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Sugar Bitch, the filthy old scrubber just proved how totally fucking
gone in the head she is.... Can you say "quote"? Can you say "read"?
That retarded old scrubber is so stupid she probably expected to get
condoms out of a gum dispenser!!!! Small wonder the only way the worn
out old hag could make money was on her back!!! And not much at
that... 10c the hour or 20c the night, ay Sugar???
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Sugar+Bitch,+the+filthy+old+scrubber+magnus+pym&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3E9DE516.485B7BB5%40hushmail.com&rnum=5
--
I'd condone almost anything that would shut this stupid, trolling,
whining bitch up. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=I%27d+condone+almost+anything+that+would+shut+this+stupid,+trolling,&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ECEB024.318FF268%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Used when Sugar Bitch makes yet another stupid statement, and shows
she doesn't jack shit (not the poster... but things like 'how do ya
load ALL the barrels of a gun').
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Used+when+Sugar+Bitch+makes+yet+another+stupid+statement,+and+shows&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3E9E0C19.3BBA15CD%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
It's perhaps time Patience made her own attempt -- with luck though,
this scum won't be back -- and when the whining mad bitch comes back I
will enjoy serving her a lot of her own medicine.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=this+scum+won%27t+be+back+--+and+when+the+whining+mad+bitch+comes+back&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3F14B849.591A1977%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
especially when this psychopathic bitch still can't back up her
"claim" with any proof?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=especially+when+this+psychopathic+bitch+still&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&se m=3F14B849.591A1977%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
I never wrote "LOL" following the colon, you stupid mad bitch.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=I+never+wrote+%22LOL%22+following+the+colon,+you+stupid+mad+bitch.&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3EDA6163.9224BF9B%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Can't break what doesn't exist.. a mad heartless bitch like you has no
heart...You are scum, and will be treated with the contempt that scum
like you deserves. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=a+mad+heartless+bitch+like+you+has+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3EDA6163.9224BF9B%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
So, screw you. If you don't like it: use a killfile, you stupid, mad,
sanctimonious bitch.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=you+stupid,+mad,+sanctimonious+bitch.&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3F78874D.C9783949%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Who'd want a mad interventing bitch like you?
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ED8EB97.6446C14E%40hushmail.com
--
Too late. Douglas Wiser is already the Arsehole Of ASH, while the
Patience nutjob, as Wiser's sidekick, is just a mad, spamming, whining
bitch and easily dismissed as such.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Patience+nutjob,+as+Wiser%27s+sidekick,+is+just+a+mad,+spamming,&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ED54661.66AC177C%40hushmail.com&rnum=2&filter=0
--
So; who hit you? Are you going to run to the police and tell them I
hit you? LOL. Wot a stupid mad bitch.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=LOL.+Wot+a+stupid+mad+bitch&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ED532BC.D4BC8D5B%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
No one is really fooled; I mean... FFS: can anyone take this mad
whining bitch with any degree of seriousness?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mad+whining+bitch+with+any+degree+of+seriousness&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ECF2CD2.A8A13344%40hushmail.com&rnum=2
--
Mind you, if the 'quality' of conversation is like Purple's, Slug's,
sugar bitch's or the 15 other fuckwads in the KF... what a damn
fucking shame that'd be...
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sugar+bitch%27s+or+the+15+other+fuckwads&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3E9B2B7C.A8DFA86E%40hushmail.com&rnum=3
--
Douggie and his whore spend the nite in JAIL!!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Douggie+and+his+whore+spend+the+nite+in+JAIL!!!&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3E9DFAAF.3631C60B%40hushmail.com&rnum=1
[end]
Bob Griffin claims to be some sort of Usenet freedom fighter, chasing
away the "TROLLS", as he calls them. But Bob Griffin's posting history
on Usenet seems to suggest that it is in fact Bob Griffin who is the
"TROLL" Please see these three links posted below:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author%***@hotmail.com&btnG=Google+Search
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:auto87064%40hushmail.com+
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:v1ndicat0r%40hotmail.com+
These three links above are all pseudonyms of Bob Griffin. And these
three links above clearly show to anyone a pattern of cyber stalking
and harassment of anyone who disagrees with Bob Griffin on Usenet.
Bob Griffin's insane behavior has caught the attention of other people
on Usenet in a not so flattering way. The link below shows that Bob
Griffin has been added to a Usenet poll called "The Bobo Award"
http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9/bobo.html
Understand, that the above ""Bobo Award" is a satire which is not
meant to be taken seriously. But what the "Bobo Award" does show is
the frustration that many people feel regarding certain Usenet posters
like Bob Griffin and the havoc that has been reaped on Usenet by
people like Bob Griffin.
If you become a victim of Bob Griffin (AKA MAGNUS PYM) and you find
yourself on the receiving end of libelous comments, the exposure of
your personal information, such as real name and home address being
posted on Usenet, then print out the posting, with full headers, and
contact your local police and perhaps your lawyer. For many years, Bob
Griffin has made the claim that he cannot be touched and that he is
anonymous. Yet, at the same time, Bob Griffin has stripped away the
security of many Usenet posters by posting all their personal
information on the Internet and on Usenet in a libelous fashion,
something that has now caught the attention of Federal authorities in
the USA. And one of these people that Bob Griffin has harassed,
relentlessly, is a female in the Eastern seaboard of the USA. This
woman has many health concerns that could be fatal if not monitored.
And avoiding stress is extremely important for a person in her
condition. And Bob Griffin has taken away her ability to cope with
stress, by creating an element of fear in her life. Bob Griffin is now
threatening to sue her. However, after Bob Griffin's insane rants
regarding her on Usenet, no lawyer in the land would be foolish enough
to challenge this issue. And there were many witnesses to Bob
Griffin's attacks on her. Once again, Bob Griffin has created an
element of fear for this person and this has added to the difficulties
she is currently enduring. This person has stated that she is often
afraid to be alone in her apartment at any time of the day or night,
as Bob Griffin has stated that he knows where she lives. And Bob
Griffin has stated that he would condone almost anything to have her
shut up. Also, Bob Griffin did indeed post her home address and
telephone numbers on Usenet.
This text is not complete. There will be an addendum to this text in
the future if the need arises.
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Former Oakalla Prisoner Number 283163 Patrick Michael Sullivan, the cyberstalking
scumbag gutlessly hiding behind "Captain Kearsley" babbled in
This is Usenet and ANYTHING can happen here.
And you frequently make ANYTHING [sic] happen, don't you, Patrick?
Why don't you tell usenet about your times trolling and stalking posters on Canadian
newsgroups including van.general and can.general, with your pal, Barbara Amaro?
Gonna repost some flames I've made to fuckwit trolls like you to "defend"
yourself, Patrick?
Why don't you tell ash how you've used over 20 names and nicks on ash and
pretended to be different people, to stalk and abuse depressed and suicidal people?
Why have you morphed *again*, Ping Mail inbox? Or should I say: "ASH Monstermash"? "Francis
Begbie"? Or who are you in your fucked up little mind today? Who are you stalking
I don't need to morph. See? Here I am, using the same usenet access I have used for years --
using the same ISP and the same working email address I have had for years -- despite
your pathetic efforts to spam bomb the email addy and your pathetic attempts to LART
my providers -- who dismissed your claims for the frivolous shit they are.
No, Patrick; I don't cower behind anonymous remailers and proxify.com like your scumbag
partner in crime, the so called "Ted Smith", does... Or your pal, Brad Jesness.
See, I have a copy of the email your fellow predator, Cori Wasserman, sent to Jesness.
Hmmm! Some pretty libelous bullshit there, Patrick!
I also have spoken to some of the lists you forged subscribed me to, Patrick.
By spam bombing me, you thought that I wouldn't get that email from a Crown
Coroner in England about the death of Chris? Well, I did.
I got that email, all right. Seems Douglas Wiser's postings were handed by the Coroner to
the CID.
You pal, Douglas Wiser: a subject of police investigation, related to the death of an ash
poster. Well, well, well. It puts all that UK media activity and the search for predators
in ash in a new light...
Predators like you, Patrick. Predators like your pal, Cori Wasserman.
Predators like your pal Louis the wannabe pimp. Just like you, and
your "Bud", Wiser. Oh? He's not your pal anymore? Awww! LOL! Well, seems you and
the other scum have yourselves to blame for committing crimes to support that predator,
now...
Care to libel Karin Spaink again about Chris' death, Patrick Michael Sullivan?
Gonna libel me and say I "abuse women" -- with the flames I've directed at
deadshit predators like you, Patrick?
Better still, Patrick: tell ash how you stalked the ash poster "robin" by
crossposting her joke about dog recipes into a whole lot of unrelated newsgroups,
and followed it up on NANAU with one of your whiny, lunatic rants.
Tell everyone how you emailed that woman with traceroutes and pings, and threated to
have her account pulled if she didn't accept your "peace offering".
Tell everyone all about how you and the predators got together to post Grace's name
and her obsolete address to get at me, you shitbag stalker.
Tell ash all about why you wanted to meet a usenet poster on the corner of Hemlock and
*Another* nick of yours, eh, you psychotic stalker?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030628081123.01996.00000416%40mb-m10.aol.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030628034404.09907.00001114%40mb-m26.aol.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030628061614.02104.00000317%40mb-m10.aol.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030628060209.02104.00000316%40mb-m10.aol.com
Patrick, why don't you tell AUK have you swallowed the lies of renowned kook and stalker
Brad Jesness, then spammed this crap to sci.psychology.psychotherapy and other places?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6917e7ef.0309231810.24fc6235%40posting.google.com
Patrick: why don't you admit to AUK about your crawling to Just Taylor under your
"Ping Mail Inbox" persona?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20031101213639.28545.00000101%40mb-m15.aol.com
Or, are you going to email threats to other posters again, demanding they send you
personal info about others?
Small wonder, then, you wanted *me* out of the way, eh, Patrick, you stalking,
abusive shitbag? Didn't want your dirty past being exposed, do you?
--
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
Salvor Hardin, "Foundation" (Isaac Asimov)
"I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Jesus Christ, "The Bible" -- Matthew 10:45 (various)
"We came to wreck everything... and ruin your life. God sent us."
Sonny Jim, "Romper Stomper" (Geoffrey Wright)